tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6125559722286041556.post8511054056784169061..comments2024-01-19T02:52:52.713-06:00Comments on Growing Up Veg: Celestehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12857018166229990115noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6125559722286041556.post-34659658355892321452010-05-15T20:06:51.934-05:002010-05-15T20:06:51.934-05:00OMG, that would be so tough :( We haven't had ...OMG, that would be so tough :( We haven't had an issue like this with mice, but with hornets. They build in our carport AND in the kids playhouse. I could never be the one to spray them all, that's when a non-veg husband comes in handy I guess. The hardest part to me is explaining our decision to the kids. I remember once when Ava saw me swat at mosquitos that were flying around her she looked at me in horror. Like I was an aweful traitor!Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906585578486605907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6125559722286041556.post-42053266947483594332010-04-29T15:27:08.893-05:002010-04-29T15:27:08.893-05:00Hi there, Celeste! This is a great blog! I am just...Hi there, Celeste! This is a great blog! I am just waiting to give birth to our first baby, who will at least be half vegan! :) I really empathize with your mouse problem...we had the same thing, and I ended up getting the humane traps but then the mice disappeared! We had another issue with sugar ants and I tried vinegar and hot sauce for a while but no luck. Good for you, for trying! I also liked your Easter egg post. I loved decorating eggs, too, and am glad that you found such a neat alternative! Plus, they have something they can remember and keep for years to come. Keep up the great work!Peace, Love and Veganismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622549146897862600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6125559722286041556.post-22284900784536312732010-04-29T09:39:04.044-05:002010-04-29T09:39:04.044-05:00I think that veganism entails a commitment to live...I think that veganism entails a commitment to live your life in a way that opposes the use of animals for unnecessary human ends. I think it also means that, whenever possible, we should refrain from harming animals, even if we aren't "using" them. <br /><br />You weren't using the mice in your house. They were using your house. We could go on and on about how by even building houses we're using the habitats of animals and ... well that line of thinking isn't really useful in a modern context. <br /><br />So the situation was one of those "if a tiger broke into my house and was going to maul my kids, would I be justified in harming and/or killing him or her?" problems. The answer, of course, is yes. Your situation may not have been as immediately dire as that example, but the sentiment is similar. The integrity of your house could have been compromised, your kids (including the furry ones) could have gotten bit or diseased. <br /><br />In the past, I've taken the "as long as they're invading my house" attitude in the past. The problem with this is that they don't realize that the invasion is something that's creating a negative effect on the human end. I don't think we should hold animals responsible for actions that cause harm because they likely don't have the ability to consider and moralize about that harm. So it's not really a battle against invading pests, it's just an unfortunate but genuine conflict of interest that almost never has a positive solution for all involved. When genuine conflicts of interest arise between humans and animals, we as humans are justified, I think, to choose our own interests over the others'. <br /><br />It sure seems like you did everything within your power to rid your house of the unwanted guests without the use of lethal measures. You DID get rid of a lot of mice without killing or, it sounds like, even harming them. That's pretty awesome.<br /><br />So, no condemnation from me, that's for sure. Being vegan doesn't mean we have to let animals invade our house or maul us or that we can't swat at a mosquito or treat head-lice. At least that's not what it means to me.Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175147314119274741noreply@blogger.com